Bizzare symptoms

[Mom2boys]

Sorry, allopathic doctors are Doctors that have the title MD and go to school to learn how chemicals can be used to treat illness. Naturopathics carry the title ND and learn how to use foods and herbs(the first drugs) to treat illness.

It would be nice if we could all work together one day because I believe that God uses both sides of the camp

[laura]

Thanks.......that makes sense.

Laura

[laura]

Got my blood test results today.........
normal.

I guess the next step is to be allergy tested??? I just don't know what else too do?
I hate the thought of allergy testing, because I am allergic to myself!! AND NOT TO MENTION, I personally believe that the drug companies and doctors are in kahoots to get everyone hooked on drugs.......

Any suggestions?

Laura

[Dandelion]

The fact that someone else where you work felt similar, could it be something at work - like some chemical around the place. Like if they've just had some work done, paint, etc., or changed cleaning chemicals or something? Or maybe something else you've both have in common, like started the same shampoo or somesuch.

Other than that what about liver health? That can produce nausea type symptoms.
I would do some research on hormonal things.

[laura]

The girl at work came down with some wacky flu type thing.........she also runs and "in home day care" so the assumption is that one of the kids gave her something ((she had two kids 2 weeks prior that had the same thing))...

I was really hoping it was a 'bug' or something like that.

My nausea has subsided.....not gone, but reduced, drasticly.
I really think it's something in the air. Be it mold, or some other wacky allergen.

I prayed hard for answers, and feel that God has "crossed the hormonal thing" off the list for me. I spoke at great length with the OB and he assured me that my hormones were in "check" and I am not in 'peri-menapause' or 'full blown menepause' nor do I have a deficency in one type of hormone nor an over abundance of another type of hormone......
Knowing how much I prayed, and how many were praying with me, I feel that this was God's answer to my question.

I really think I need to investigate the allergy thing....

BUT HERES MY QUESTION:

Let's say I am allergic to......dust.
Ok, the world is a dusty place.
I hate drugs.
The only reason drs. prescribe drugs is to relieve "symptoms". Not to fix/cure allergies.
So, if I "mask" my symptoms with drugs........isn't the dust still causing damage, it's just that NOW that I am on drugs, I don't know how much damage is being done, because I don't have any symptoms???

Thanks
laura

[JCsMomma]

Laura,
I understand your frustration COMPLETELY!!! My pediatrician told me that alot of people are severely sensitive to some things in their environment and not necessarily allergic to them (so as to test positive for them on an allergy test). If you believe this is where the Lord is leading you to look, I would suggest the book "Is this your child?". It shows you how things in the env't can trigger responses and how to eliminate them from your life and slowly reintroduce them to see the response.
I also know that mold can cause these types of problems. We lived in a new apartment and ds1 and I got extremely sick. Come to find out there was mold in all of the window seals (the caulk & sealant.) Our beds were right by the windows! As soon as we moved, we were better!! If this is the cause, then there are ways that you can destroy it naturally without bleach.
Keep us posted. I am praying for you and your family. God is moving and doing a great work in the background for you... I am sure!
Cherise

[Dandelion]

laura said:

BUT HERES MY QUESTION:

Let's say I am allergic to......dust.
Ok, the world is a dusty place.
I hate drugs.
The only reason drs. prescribe drugs is to relieve "symptoms". Not to fix/cure allergies.
So, if I "mask" my symptoms with drugs........isn't the dust still causing damage, it's just that NOW that I am on drugs, I don't know how much damage is being done, because I don't have any symptoms???

I think you've got an important point there, the problem is finding the answers. What really are allergies anyway? I mean we know so much about them, the response of the body, but what really causes the problem?
After all God made us from dust, to live in this world. (Of course, I acknowledge that things have changed since then, most definitely an increase of bad/chemicals in our dust) I wonder how many of this sort of problem comes from an unbalance of the body's flora. - the healthy soil organisms (including those in yoghurt, sourdough bread) that Jordan Rubin speaks of in The Maker's Diet. Sally Fullon, of Nourishing Traditions keeps mentioning the soured foods.

I'll quote from what a friend has said,
The one thing that I have learned when it comes to allergies is that most food allergies are not true allergies. Many food allergies are brought on by poor digestive health, especially in the instestinal tract. When you aren't well, over time, foods that are hard for your body to digest (wheat, corn, milk, sugar, etc) often sit and ferment in your delecate intestinal tract and over time that 'rotting' food begins to eat away the intestinal walls producing little tiny holes. Undigested food go through these walls into the bloodstream and when your body detects that foreign object it goes crazy in trying to fight it, and then you get sick. Every time you eat a certain food that makes you sick, it usually means your body is trying to fight off something it knows shouldn't be there.
My Mom has even more food sensitivities (and as do a few of my siblings) so she was very cautious about starting the www.scdiet.com way off eating because it promotes intestinal healing through diet (no medications) and many of the foods mentioned in the book (Breaking the Vicious Cycle; Intestinal Health Through Diet by Elaine Gottschall B.A, M.Sc.) were things that would send her over the edge. But after making homemade yogurt and giving her body some time to heal, she can now eat cheese, butter, fruit, vegetables ~ all those things that bothered her to the point of being severly sick. The book focusses on letting your body heal naturally by what you eat, so as long as you stick to lots of yogurt, protein, monosacchrides (like in honey and most fruit), and things that your body can heal itself and those allergies vanish (as long as you exclusively STICK with eating this way for at leat 2 full years).

Now I know here we're not talking about food allergies, and don't think that Elaine Gotschall has it all straightened out, but is a good part way there. But I there must be something at the bottom of this.
I also see allergies listed as a symptom of poor liver health, and with all the similarities between the liver and allergies in symptoms, I'm inclinded to draw a link there. I am only going on text-book info, but what I have found there would suggest that helping the liver/cleansing could help. (I saw something here about that subject)

There must be herbal preparations around that might help, instead of drugs. echinacea is the only one I can think of right now.

[laura]

danae said:

Now I know here we're not talking about food allergies, and don't think that Elaine Gotschall has it all straightened out, but is a good part way there. But I there must be something at the bottom of this.


There must be herbal preparations around that might help, instead of drugs. echinacea is the only one I can think of right now.

Going with this thought here.............

I have an allergy to mold.
I can smell it a mile away, and after being exposed too it for only 5-10 min, the insides of my ears (deep in the middle) begin to itch. My head itches, my face itches, it becomes difficult to breath, I get a migraine headache (blurred vision / thick tounge / pounding pain).

I have an allergy to pennicillian, which is a mold based antibiotic. The last time I was given a shot of penn. (when we found out I was allergic) I broke out in hives / and my air passage began to swell shut........my ears began to swell shut......I could have died.

So what 'foods' or natural remedies have "molds" in them? Is there a book I can check out in the library??

I can no longer burn wood in my fireplace, because when I do, the molds that are in the wood is released into the air and it causes the above reactions. This is a hard core allergy!!

But I definately agree with you, that what we breathe in / what we eat and drink / what we wash our laundry and bodies with / what we color our hair with /what we paint our nails with / the jewerly we wear...........are all foreign to 2000 years ago. I think you are on to something.

Laura

[Dandelion]

Aren't molds, fungi, like as are yeasts? So once again could it involve bread, cheese?

I'll think on it and look around. It must be hard to live with such allergies.

[Dandelion]

The three books I have read that I mentioned above are not exactly about allergies, but they are interesting books. I found them all in our local library. Homeostatic Soil Organisms www.gardenoflife.com/probiotics.shtml (I haven't found this web-site the easiest to follow!, but I think this is something of what I was looking for)

Another book that I read once from the library, on echinacea, that was really informative/scientific is: Echinacea the Plant that Boosts the Immune System. by Douglas Schar London Souvenir 1999

Do you have any other lung problems? I just wondered if maybe bad/good breathing might affect the situation, but maybe not. We were told a little while ago about hydrogen peroxide being used for cancer, and all sorts of infections, simply because it provides the body with oxygen and most such toxins live without air, die in oxygen.

I've ended up looking at this more from the herbal perspective. Looking through my books, I've come up with Echinacea, Chammomile & Liquorice that I think would go together. But that is from a limited selection of herbs! Looking at web-sites they seem to suggest nettles and others such as feverfew, tumeric.

Echinacea Angustifolia strengthens the immune system. As well as being useful for any/all infections (bacterial, viral & fungal), 'echinacea, by stimulating the immune response, of both B & T systems, also guards the body fromthe effects of beestings, snakevenom, malaria, and cancer. Allergies and other auto-immune states (e.g. rheumatoid athritis) are rectified. The essential oil contains anti-hyaluronidase, an anti-histamine substance, too.'
Echinacea is alterative, analgesic, anti- (...infection about everything!), anti-spasmodic, anti-catarrhal, anti-inflammatory, astringent, cardiac tonic, digestive, tonic, vulnerary. Dose 3-4 x day Fluid Extract 1-5mls; Tincture 2-10mls; Infusion 2-4 gms dried herbs

Chammomile (German) Matricana Recutita digestive (carminative, bitter (liver/pancreas)), relaxant, immune stimulant,(polysaccharides) anit-allergic - chamazulene and other constituents are anti-inflammatory and block histamine. 'As with Achilla, (Yarrow) development of the chamazulene depends on subjecting the herb to steam distillation and inhalations or hot infusions (kept covered whilst steeping) will do this.' (Materia Medica of Western Herbs for the Southern Hemisphere by Carole Fisher & Gilian Painter) -don't know if you'll find this one in your library or not!

Liquorice Glycyrrhiza Glabra : expectorant (expels mucous from lungs), demulcent (soothes), digestive, tonic, anti-inflammatory, adrenocorticotropic -helps the adrenal cortex (hormonal) (warning causes retention of sodium), anti-allergic, for auto-immune conditions.

I don't anything about thess except that I just found them on a search. I thought the first one was good.
www.mothernature.com/Library/Bookshelf/Books/41/7.cfm
www.arrowroot.com/aller-7.asp
www.darcynat.com/Article.asp?strsessionguid=86BEFA21-D779-4536-AAA9-D3...&fArticleID=46
alivemagazine.com/home/index.php?page_type=article&topic_id=1000090&article_id=7302&site_id=27&go_id=2&take_id=6&PHPSESSID=9718dd4d20e0eae089cec40f29ab1c72

[laura]

danae said:

Do you have any other lung problems? I just wondered if maybe bad/good breathing might affect the situation, but maybe not.

I was diagnosed with Hystoplasmosis when I was younger......and have smoked off and on for 20+ years.
I cannot breathe when the humidity is real high, or when the wind chill is bitter cold. It's the 'extremes' that hurt me!!

I am beginning to think that it's mold more and more.
There is a place behind the dish tank at work that has mold........and when I work more than a couple of shifts a week I feel nauseous / headache / dizzy......I am going to call the allergy doctor today, and see if they can just mold test me......and go from there.

Thanks!!!
Laura