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Post by stackeyha on May 27, 2005 18:11:31 GMT -5
Yeah me too me too...
Actually I imagine that the coconut /butter blend is about the same as the olive oil /butter blend...mine is something like 3 parts butter 1 part oil...but I guesstimate...
would have thought that leaving it on the counter for a long period would ruin the butter component...
So what about these containers?
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Post by Mom2boys on May 27, 2005 19:24:17 GMT -5
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Post by Mom2boys on May 27, 2005 19:25:49 GMT -5
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Post by marcia on May 27, 2005 20:41:33 GMT -5
thanks for the info on the containers.
so what/how do you mix the coconut oil and butter?
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Post by canadamom on May 28, 2005 7:01:18 GMT -5
I guess I can skip the oatmeal (thank goodness!) if I'm taking the psyllium. I'd rather take the psyllium like medicine than linger over a bowl of oatmeal in the morning. I went out and bought the husks yesterday.
It will be hard for me to cut down on starches because I love them. But I'll make an effort to substitute veggies for breads. At least its summer and we can eat lots of salads. I think I can replace iceberg lettuce. My kids like romaine. I like a bit of spinach mixed in.
I'm going to start reading all those labels for transfatty acids and hydrogenated anything.
I would love to have the granola recipe. I love granola but always thought it was too high in fat and sugar to eat regularly.
I want to thank everyone for giving me such great advice. This is what I was looking for. Some concrete directions to start changing my nutritional habits so that I can get rid of this problem.
My doctor suggested giving me a prescription and I told her I needed to try other things first. So she wasn't too pleased and said that of course it was my option if I wanted to remain in a high risk for heart attack category. I have a copy of my blood test, and a ratio of 5 - 10 is the high risk category. My ration is 5.45, so I figure I should be able to make enough changes to reduce that ration at least below 5 without using pills.
Anyway, I'm supposed to go back to the doctor in 6 months to get retested. Meanwhile, I went online and ordered a kit to get a cholesterol test. I thought I'd take this test in 3 months and see if the ratio has changed at all. Do you think I'll be able to see results in 3 months if I make these changes? (I'd like to know that my cholesterol is lower before I go back to the doctor.)
Lynne
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Post by Mom2boys on May 28, 2005 7:15:33 GMT -5
I do a 1/3 oil ratio like stack does. I don't measure exactly though
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Post by Mom2boys on May 28, 2005 7:16:27 GMT -5
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Post by stackeyha on May 28, 2005 7:47:04 GMT -5
Hey Lynn,
Okay, some things to look at. There is a lot of information out there on cholesteral...what it is...why it's bad / good...why it raises the risks of heart disease...or doesn't.
Much of it is conflicting. I've come to the decision in myself that there is NO one right answer, it's all part of a MUCH bigger picture that includes so many variables that only God really understands it.
That said...Low Carb has REALLY helped a lot of people get their cholesteral under control. Now for me, I didn't start low carbing for any reason other than weight loss...that is why it took so long for me to figure things out...in the beginning I didn't care if I was healthy I just wanted to be skinny again. Low carbing did help me find various food allergies, it did help me discover my blood sugar issues (hopefully in time to avoid diabetes) and it did help me drop 40 lbs in considerably less than 6 months...all of which increase my chances of not getting heart disease.
Here is my suggestion...and it's based on a lot of science that works for SOME people...Go get The New Diet Revolution by Dr. Robert Atkins from the library and READ it.
'okay...are you paying attention...because if you aren't you are going to think that I'm saying something I'm not and I keep getting blasted for even mentioning this book.
I just said read it. Once you have read it, know that he's got part of it right...for some people drastically reducing all carbs is what gets them over sugar cravings that the Standard American Diet brings on and helps with all the diseases related therein. He also has a lot of good information about vitamin and mineral supplements that I've found helpful.
Okay...as you are reading FLAT OUT IGNORE everything he says about products and artificial sweeteners...DON'T USE THEM...DON'T LET YOUR KIDS USE THEM...while most people can tolerate them for awhile, in a lot of people they are pure poison, don't play russian roulette with your body....most of that was added by the company that bought his foundation after he died and it's in there to make an extra buck...IGNORE IT!
Now, go find a whole foods cook book...there actually is one called Whole Foods Market Cook Book. Look through it with an eye toward making food that you like that stays away from breads, pastas, grains, starches, sugars. Stick to the meat and veggies stuff. From what I've read about the book "nourishing traditions" it also looks great but I haven't read it yet.
The reason that I'm starting you with Atkins is because it's a good, pretty quick read and it tends to be the harshest of the Low Carb books because it's much older and even through revisions has not been tainted too awfully much by the "NO FAT NO FAT" thinking that's been around for the last 30-50 years...it was originally written in 1972. It'll get you started thinking about how the world wants to view heart disease and what many of the studies REALLY show. Dr Atkins was a cardiologist for years and years and because of his research and his book he was completely shunned by the medical profession...reading "The oiling of America" really explains some of the reasons why for me. The words "Atkins Diet" get a lot of negative press because most people think its the "Eggs and Bacon" diet which HAS to be bad for you because the doctor's say so, and don't ever actually read the book. Once you actually read it you realize that it isn't anything like that. I prefer the 1992 version IF you can find it...but if all you can find is the newer ones realize that much of the original whole foods low carb plan has been adulterated by the new company.
Okay...NOW...after you have read the quick and dirty on Low Carb from Atkins...and some whole foody stuff you can start to alter your diet a bit...but your homework isn't done and there is NOT one definative answer for everybody...so keep reading...I know that not everybody does well on low carb...some need more carbs than that, some are allergic to some parts, some can't stand the idea of not having bread as a daily staple...some do better on mostly vegetarian diets...I don't know what is REALLY going to work for you...
But I do know that you have to start somewhere ESPECIALLY with your dr hovering over you. So start here because it worked well for me
...from here there are 15-20 low carb books on the market with various options ... The Zone... Sugar Busters... Protein Power ... The South Beach Diet etc.
...There are many natural health books that talk about some of the differences in our bodies that might constitute the need for change in diet or supplements due to allergies, blood type, old diet etc...The Maker's Diet ... The Body by God ... Anything by Shonda Parker so for instance Mommy Diagnostics
And there are websites abounding on any of this stuff that you are interested in...
I hope this helps.
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Post by stackeyha on May 28, 2005 8:01:25 GMT -5
Oh and my granola recipe...
This can be halved.
6 cups Quaker Old Fashioned Rolled Oats (NOT quick cooking)
6 cups nuts
(I usually use 2 cup almonds, 2 cups cashews, 2 cups chopped walnuts...but whatever you like) One other option I've seen used is 5 cups nuts 1 cup shredded coconut)
about 1/2 cup oil...I use 50/50 melted butter/coconut oil
about 1 1/2 cups sweet something or to taste...I use a combo of brown sugar (I'm trying to get rid of it), honey and REAL maple syrup.
Sometimes I add cinnamon too...and YUMMY!!
Also a teaspoon to 2 tsp of vanilla can add a different kick too.
Oh and salt...I don't really know how much, but add your sweet stuff 1/2 cup at a time, taste...and salt a little and taste again. Salt really enhances the sweet and can keep you from adding too much sugar/sweet.
ETA: Cooking instructions...Preheat oven to 250...Line a couple cookie sheets with parchment (TRUST ME...this is VERY sticky and you will lose half of it too the pan...oiling doesn't work, aluminum foil doesn't work...wax paper kinda works but leaves a crayon taste...parchment or sil pats)...turn the granola out onto lined cookie sheets and put 'em in the oven. Bake for about 1 hour to 1 1/2 hours, stirring every 20 minutes or so for even coloring.
Drag the parchment out onto the counter for cooling...wait 5-10 minutes...break into bite sized chunks if needed...put it in a tupperware or zip top bag and eat it like breakfast cereal or sprinkle on yogurt.
turns out around 12 cups so it should last awhile with a 1/ 2 cup serving.
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Oh and you are right it IS too sweet and fatty if you are eating a lot of other carbs...but if this is all the sweet that you are eating and you stick to 1/2 cup AND it doesn't cause cravings than it really is okay. IF, however, you have decided to just add this to your current diet...it is a recipe for weight gain...GUARANTEED! That's my disclaimer...use with caution.
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Post by marcia on May 28, 2005 10:41:00 GMT -5
I do a 1/3 oil ratio like stack does. I don't measure exactly though thank you Tina hug |
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Post by Mom2boys on May 28, 2005 11:40:59 GMT -5
I would like to reccommend a book that I feel is more nutritionally balanced being that it will lean more toward an alkaline diet. It is the Rejuvenate Your Life book by Serene Pearl. It has tons of raw food recipes that will build up healthy enzymes and will also facilitate weight loss. And , they taste great!
I don't care for any of the low carb books. I have them all on my shelf and I just think they are on the wrong track. I do agree that they are partially right , but you still need to keep your proteins down to 25% of your diet including breads. I just can't buy any part of a book that encourages you to put your body into ketosis.
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Post by stackeyha on May 28, 2005 14:54:38 GMT -5
Ah man...
Well...fair enough...we will just have to agree to disagree.
For me, when I do put myself in ketosis...which doesn't happen on purpose when I'm pregnant...I feel so much better all the way around. Way more energy, much better blood sugar control, better sounder sleep and I need less.
I was actually in ketosis for the better part of 10 months last year during which time I was also nursing...and while I had a few health issues...NONE of them were related to being in ketosis...most were allergy or virus related...and my gall bladder issues were more than likely due to my prior diet and massive weight loss per my dr and several studies I've read.
However, you are right that steps should be made to combat the potential for acidization...BUT that is fairly easily done with a few enzymes taken in supplement form. For me, even if I weren't low carbing I would not be eating the foods that I would need for those enzymes...for various reasons but my blood sugar issues are the biggest...and allergies come right in there as well...and then there is the fact that I just don't eat some of that stuff and don't foresee eating some of it.
So I agree that none of the low carb books have it all...I don't think that I've read ANY book written by man that has all the answers for all the people in the world. The nice thing about some of those diet books is that they are written to the man on the street and you don't have to understand lipid research or hormone research or any of the other very impressive, very true research that there is. I doubt that there is any book out there that would be too hard to understand for me now...but then I've read hundreds of books and articles at this point...in the very beginning I needed an easy jumping off point and although I read the zone first...Atkins really tore it down to nuts and bolts I could understand.
Anyway, I'll still be looking into your book suggestion...I'd love to find a book that is as easy a jumping off point as Atkins without all the bad publicity because everybody deserves to start the journey at a point that won't overwhelm them.
I still love you, Tina!!! ;D
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Post by Mom2boys on May 28, 2005 15:03:47 GMT -5
lol Stack! Isn't that what medicine is all about? Lots of opinions. I'm glad it's working for you, but if you came in to see me , I would have to say  . I still love you too! |
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Post by stackeyha on May 28, 2005 16:09:31 GMT -5
You might but then again, you might look at my numbers and say "what have you been doing? It shouldn't work but it does for you...Keep it up." as my dr did. Different things for different folks. I think we have all abused our bodies in so many different ways that there HAS to be more than one answer out there. I'm so thankful to have found part of what works for me...if I hadn't I never would have looked into anything natural for healthcare. None of it worked for me when I was 60 ish pounds overweight and deficient in every enzyme, mineral and vitamin known to man as well as chronically anemic and dehydrated. Thankfully the Lord sent me down a path one way that has opened up SO much more. |
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