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Post by blessed2Bmama on Jun 18, 2005 10:37:47 GMT -5
Has anyone read this book or followed this "diet"? I was recently given a copy of the book. I'm about 50 pages into it. It has been wonderful so far. Any thoughts or suggestions?
What are some other good books to read on Whole Foods? I already have Nourishing Traditions and love it!
TIA!
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Post by Farmer Annie on Jul 31, 2005 23:31:46 GMT -5
I'm surprised my sister (Dandelion) hasn't replied to this! We have just been reading this book! I love the Biblical approach!
So many foods we are told are bad for us (even in 'natural' and 'alternative' sources) were mentioned in the Bible, without any suggestion that they would be bad for us, and while I realise that there may always be certain circumstances when some of these things may be contra-indicated, that does not make them 'bad'! (I'm not referring to artificial or processed foods, of course). I have read plenty of books on health, but this is the first one that I have read that I think really lines up with what I believe the Bible says on the subject!
The diet looks do-able to me (simply reading a diet usually puts me off!). I would like to bring my normal eating into line with phase 3 (mostly!!), and maybe attempt a brief time on the earlier phases once we have our goats in milk again, and once our cow is milking, so that I can have our own yoghurt etc! My only complaint is the no pig-meat idea - I am hoping my NZ Kunekune sow will have some piglets soon and I had been anticipating home-raised (& as organic as we can produce) bacon and ham!
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Post by Mom2boys on Aug 1, 2005 9:15:24 GMT -5
I read this book also. I guess I need to read it again. I was kind of turned off that he was marketing his product in it. I'll put it on my to do list to read again and then I'll post my thoughts on it.
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Post by Dandelion on Aug 1, 2005 15:23:36 GMT -5
The book is great. I do think though that we have to make sure that we take the principles of the Mosaic Law rather than the law as a law. Which he also does refer to, but not as strongly/plainly as I'd like. We need to keep in mind 1 Tim. 4:4 'Every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:' I note is says 'creature', rather than vege. or otherwise. So even pigs, rabbit, seafood are fine to eat, they are good. But we maybe ought not to go out of our way to eat alot of it, seeing as we know that scientifically and according to the Mosaic law that they are not clean animals.
In my opinion of what I've learnt, everything in this sinful world has something wrong with it, or potentially could (say, if you eat of silverbeet with every meal you'd end up deficient in calcium. But you can't say it is a bad food and not a good one - it's high in iron) For another example of what I mean, I've read of a girl with mental disorder who her parents found was much better when she ate oysters. (high in zinc) Cause her system needed cleaning, etc. but point is, the oysters do have good still.
Well I think I've said enough!
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Post by Mom2boys on Aug 1, 2005 17:44:34 GMT -5
Amen Dandelion! Also in Matthew , Jesus says that it is not what goes into your mouth that is dirty , but what comes out of it. God made the laws in the OT for a reason, but I think that a little of those foods is permissable.
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Post by Farmer Annie on Aug 3, 2005 15:03:01 GMT -5
I quite agree that those foods are permissable. But it is good to be reminded of the potential dangers of certain of those, and to see how wonderfully God equipped His people to enjoy health - esp. when you think of the conditions they lived in in the desert those 40 years! And I was amazed to read that even during the great plagues in England/Europe not as many Jewish people died.
Isn't it interesting too, that although God didn't outline what was clean or unclean in His Word until He gave the Mosaic/Levitical law, even Noah had a concept of clean and unclean animals - God refered to both when he gave instructions about the animals that would come to the ark. Even at that point in history people must have observed the different habbits of animals and recognised certain ones as being cleaner and safer to eat, while others were scavengers that could carry disease!
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Post by Farmer Annie on Aug 3, 2005 15:03:38 GMT -5
I quite agree that those foods are permissable. But it is good to be reminded of the potential dangers of certain of those, and to see how wonderfully God equipped His people to enjoy health - esp. when you think of the conditions they lived in in the desert those 40 years! And I was amazed to read that even during the great plagues in England/Europe not as many Jewish people died.
Isn't it interesting too, that although God didn't outline what was clean or unclean in His Word until He gave the Mosaic/Levitical law, even Noah had a concept of clean and unclean animals - God refered to both when he gave instructions about the animals that would come to the ark. Even at that point in history people must have observed the different habbits of animals and recognised certain ones as being cleaner and safer to eat, while others were scavengers that could carry disease!
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Post by smfeet2001 on Aug 11, 2005 13:45:58 GMT -5
ok A friend of mine told me that any fish without scales are bad for you. As well as Pork (any kind of pork. They do not even eat shrimp, catfish, sharks, or  Is this what the book said too? She said it is stated in the Bible. I told her the scriptures in the NT nullifies the OT scriptures because it never confirmed but stated by Paul in 1 Timothy.... Just curious here...this is interesting. Holly |
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Post by Dandelion on Aug 14, 2005 14:40:22 GMT -5
Exactly!
I don't see how that Paul's statement can mean anything other than what it says. So it does nullify them. However, it is true that the guidelines of the O.T. must still give some advice. God must have had reasons for them, (and it is thought that those reasons are because certain ones are not so healthy. I'm not sure that God ever said that though) It is interesting that oysters and such are used to measure the toxin levels of the water. If there is much toxin in the oyster, then there was in the water, and if little then little in the water. So somehow there is a balance between those.
I know we definitely are not to obey the OT as though it is law, cause for us, it is not. Yet if we think it is wrong/unhealthy for us to eat such, and if we do, it is sin for us, cause it is not of faith.(Romans 14) Many take the stance that they eat it if they are served it, but won't prepare it themselves.
I take more liberty than that, and say, ideally, major on the clean ones, and enjoy just some of the others. But if they are what you have available, that is O.K. If you are needing zinc, why not eat oysters/shellfish, instead of taking tablets! (Jordan Rubin is also not in favour of those, either!) Course you could add dandelion, or garlic as well to help look after the excess toxins.
Genesis 9:3 God says to Noah, 'Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.'
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